L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par rugbyman13 » 05 mars 2010, 22:24

Merci Jacques et chapeau pour vos précisions. Merci aussi à tous les autres intervenants. :D

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Message non lu par rugbyman13 » 18 sept. 2010, 11:27

Qui est le joueur que Puig-Aubert soutient lors du France vs Galles du 13/12/1953 au Vélodrome? Merci
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Message non lu par Jean CAZENAVE » 20 sept. 2010, 12:36

On dirait Jacky Merquey ???
Maintenant je ne l'avais jamais vu casqué...
Quant à Pipette ce jour là il avait été remplacé par le villeneuvois Estrada.

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Message non lu par cande » 20 sept. 2010, 12:56

Jean CAZENAVE a écrit :On dirait Jacky Merquey ???
Maintenant je ne l'avais jamais vu casqué...
Quant à Pipette ce jour là il avait été remplacé par le villeneuvois Estrada.
Il me semble que c'est Pambrun.
Match joué le 13/12/1953 France 23 - Galles 22
Estrada - Alberti, Rey, Carrère, Contrastin - (o) G.Benausse, (m) Crespo - 3éme ligne Blanc - 2ème ligne Pambrun, Bernard - 1ère ligne Béraud, Audoubert, Rinaldi.

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par billy » 20 sept. 2010, 14:45

Cazenave n'a pas le sens des gabarits :D Merquey n'etait pas plus grand que Pipette....
Cande qui a une bonne memoire...a peut etre raison avec Pambun :roll:
question gabarit c'est tres possible...
Macarel;...... il y avait ce sacre Raspou a l'arriere.. :D :D :D

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par ego scriptor » 20 sept. 2010, 14:56

cande a écrit :
Jean CAZENAVE a écrit :On dirait Jacky Merquey ???
Maintenant je ne l'avais jamais vu casqué...
Quant à Pipette ce jour là il avait été remplacé par le villeneuvois Estrada.
Il me semble que c'est Pambrun.
Match joué le 13/12/1953 France 23 - Galles 22
Estrada - Alberti, Rey, Carrère, Contrastin - (o) G.Benausse, (m) Crespo - 3éme ligne Blanc - 2ème ligne Pambrun, Bernard - 1ère ligne Béraud, Audoubert, Rinaldi.
Confirmé Cande, c'est bien Jean Pambrun, qui jouait à Marseille à cette époque-là.
Il a été mon pâtissier, rue de la Barre à Perpignan, quand j'étais gamin,
Il a ensuite été le patissier atitré du XIII catalan, quand j'y étais dirigeant,
Et il a surtout été un grand seconde ligne...
Tiens, j'ai envie de faire un pied de nez à Rugbyman XIII :
Il est ici, au milieu :
:mdr23: http://rugbyman13.rmc.fr/495118/Jean-Do ... -une-star/
Mais on peut le voir aussi sur cet extrait vidéo en N° 12 (en 2ème mi-temps, il perd son short et l'arbitre le fait sortir...) : http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF97501026/jeu ... an.fr.html

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par Jean CAZENAVE » 20 sept. 2010, 19:02

Mea culpa !
En plus j'aurais pu regarder mes archives : Merquey ne jouait pas ce jour là...
mais je savais qu'Estrada y avait gagné son unique cap d'International.
Et permettez moi d'apporter un petit détail: l'affluence était de 25 000 spectateurs !
On voit d'ailleurs beaucoup de monde sur la photo, ainsi que des gosses de l'école de Rugby ...(probablement en jaune et bleu couleurs du Marseille XIII de Paul Ricard)...
C'est loin tout ça !

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par Calixte1 » 02 janv. 2012, 03:32

rugbyman13 a écrit :Treizistes en action vue de dos. On reconnaît le célèbre arrière de Carcassonne avec son n°1 Puig Aubert.
1955?

Nombre 4? Rouzaud? Lavantes? Morelli?

Mon image préférée actuelle... Superbe.

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par Calixte1 » 07 janv. 2012, 05:04

Can't anyone identify the other player? Billy I thought you would have a view...

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par Calixte1 » 05 févr. 2012, 02:15

I am nearly convinced it is a picture of Aubert and Gaston Comes. The white uniform looks more and more like XIII Catalan. No. 4 is correct and the right hand looks injured.

Is it possible this was a Cup game played at Marseille by Carcassonne and Catalans and not involving Marseille at all?

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par ego scriptor » 05 févr. 2012, 15:25

Oui, c'est bien Gaston Comes en N°4 face à Puig-Aubert qui le projette en touche.
Je t'ai expliqué que ce n'était pas une blessure mais une malformation du pouce qu'il avait à la main droite.
viewtopic.php?p=482492#p482492

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par Calixte1 » 06 févr. 2012, 09:56

I meant injured only in the sense of not having all of his fingers.

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Pour les amateurs de Marseille 13
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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

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Marseille 13 saison 1966 1967
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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par le fennec » 05 avr. 2012, 22:37

Que devient Franck PERRIN, alias RUGBYMAN13? :(

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par coco11 » 11 juin 2012, 17:06

Bonjour Messieurs,

Mon grand père Robert Jammet (ancien 3/4 centre du fcl 13) a joué à Marseille la saison précédant l'année victorieuse de 1949. j'ai qq articles de leurs tournée en Angleterre, si qq'un avait des photos de cette année là, ce serait vraiment génial.

Merci d'avance

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

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rugbyman13 a écrit :Ayant récupéré un nombre important de visuels concernant ce club, j'ai pensé qu'il fallait lancer un post sur cette grande ville où le XIII fut roi pendant une décennie. Marseille XIII mériterait de retrouver son lustre passé dans la ville phocéenne. Alors, bonne chance aux dirigeants actuels.
On distingue André Carrère alias 'Dédé" dans la ligne d'attaque bordelaise, il suit Contrastin
salut frank
je ne pense pas l avoir vu celle ci ,mais bon faut que je fouille dans les archives quand j ai le temps.en attendant merci.
a bientot peutetre a mimizan.
nicolas.

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par Calixte1 » 25 nov. 2012, 13:54

Apologies for the lack of French below but I thought this article on Marseille rugby league was of interest.
Modifié en dernier par Calixte1 le 25 nov. 2012, 14:09, modifié 1 fois.

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

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http://stevemascord.com/2012/09/01/the- ... epeatedly/

The Year Players And Referees Walked Off Mid-Game – Repeatedly

September 1, 2012

By LYLE BEATON

A REVIEW of the French sporting press out of Paris during the early 1950s reveals an interesting story about rugby league and one of the strongest French club teams of the day, Marseille.

The 1952-1953 season saw Marseille involved in something of a running battle with the French Rugby League hierarchy, as more than one game involving their First Division side was abandoned by the referee prior to the scheduled conclusion of play.

The 1952-1953 season had been one of much promise for Marseille – at the time one of the true giants of the French rugby league scene. The club was a powerful one guided by a steady and resolute administration headed by spirits millionaire Paul Ricard and operated out of the principal stadium in the city, Le Stade Velodrome.

The team itself was extremely strong and was graced to also be full of talented and gifted individuals. The focal point for the combination was the explosive Jacques Merquey – a world-class centre and French captain during much of the 1950s – who had proved such a star on the 1951 French Tour of Australia and New Zealand.

A core of senior international standard players and a very strong roster drawn by the attractions of a big city club were central to the success attained by Marseille in the post-Second World War French rugby league competitions.

Marseille had experienced much success in recent French domestic seasons with a French Championship win in 1949 (their first and last to date) and French Cup wins in 1948 and 1949. Added to this silverware were quality performances during the 1949-1950 and 1951-1952 seasons, during which they were runners-up in the French Championship – losing in each case to the might of Puig-Aubert’s AS Carcassonne in successive finals (21-7 and 18-6).

A typical Marseille side during the 1952-1953 season would prove to be:-

Full-back Andre

Wingers Prudhom, Grasseau

Centres Merquey, Hatchondo

Five-Eighth Cesar


Half-back Dop

Lock Perez

Second Rowers Negrier, Delaye

Props Rinaldi, Beraud

Hooker Appelian

As can be seen, the usual Marseille line-up was an extremely competent set of footballers, disciplined in the requirements of high level club football and in most cases also representative and international level rugby league (ten of those listed above represented France). Accordingly, an understandably high level of expectation again accompanied the Marseille team into the French domestic season of 1952-1953.

Marseille’s draw in the run up to Christmas and New Year was as follows (the French domestic season runs September through to May of the following year):-

14/9/52 v. Avignon Home

21/9/52 v. Lezignan Away

28/9/52 v. Toulouse Home

5/10/52 v. Villeneuve Away

12/10/52 v. Albi Away

19/10/52 v. Celtic Paris Home

26/10/52 v. Cavaillon Home

2/11/52 v. Carcassonne Away

9/11/52 v. Carpentras Home

18/11/52 v. Bordeaux Away

30/11/52 v. Perpignan Away

7/12/52 v. Lyon Home

14/12/52 Bye

21/12/52 v. Celtic Paris Home

28/12/52 Bye

Emile Toulouse’s September 8, 1952 season preview in the Paris weekly Miroir-Sprint expected what he saw as a “continuation of the Carcassonne-Lyon-Marseille success of recent years”. Toulouse’s prediction concluded with the view that the likely challengers to that all-conquering triumvirate would be Perpignan, Villeneuve, Albi and Bordeaux.


Things started brightly for Marseille (“les Phoceens”) in round one with a comprehensive victory over local rivals Avignon before the faithful in the much loved Le Stade Velodrome (38-10). Celtic Paris showed that Puig-Aubert’s recent transfer to the capital would prove beneficial with a good 15-7 home win over Albi, a result which delighted Paris President Maurice Tardy. In other results, Cavaillon upset Perpignan and Lyon and Toulouse fought out an entertaining 16-16 draw.

From there, Marseille moved to the extremely picturesque but compact home ground of Lezignan, Stade Moulin, draped in Lezignan’s team colours with the white of the picket-fences and the green of the main stand. As many other teams have experienced throughout the history of the French Championship, Marseille were unable to surpass the rigour and energy of Lezignan at home, crashing to a shock 10-8 loss. Doubtless the consumption of much quality local red wine followed late into that night at Stade Moulin and then the nearby brasseries of Lezignan. Mighty Marseille! Defeated by tiny Lezignan! The joy!

Shocked into an immediate response, Marseille took out the frustration of the Lezignan defeat by crushing Toulouse 33-5 at home in round three. Felix Bergese, the “Basque Wizard” who was such a longstanding feature of the Carcassonne backline at five-eighth, had taken over the coaching reins at Toulouse, a city always crying out for success to justify its position as the “rugby capital” of France. Hatchondo was superb for Marseille as tries rained down on a Toulouse side which had previously been coasting along high in the table.

Marseille’s strong performance saw them secure third spot following three rounds of football (on seven points), while Carcassonne and Celtic Paris shared top billing on the maximum nine points.

An away match at Villeneuve has always held concerns for Marseille at the best of times but the 4-0 loss that occurred at the birthplace of French rugby league on October 5, 1952 saw Marseille’s position on the table immediately drop to equal fifth with Albi after four rounds. Furthermore, the prospect of falling even further in the table loomed with another away trip, this time to Albi (who now shared the same rung of the league ladder as Marseille with eight points). Albi’s greater confidence following a narrow win over the emerging Bordeaux the weekend previous seemingly did not bode well for Marseille.

At this stage, Emile Toulouse’s pre-season prediction of Marseille-Lyon-Carcassonne dominance was looking less than certain with Celtic Paris top of the table and Toulouse in fourth position. Certainly his writing partner from Miroir-Sprint, Edouard Seidler, had changed the newspaper’s tune by this time, describing the competition as the “New Championship of [rugby] Treize”. In fairness to the other major Paris sporting weekly, Le Miroir Des Sports, its main rugby league writer, Rene Laborderie, had never been as negative to begin with on the subject of the competitiveness of the French Championship in 1952-1953.

Albi’s 10-5 home win over Marseille must surely have sent alarm bells ringing all along Marseille’s Le Canebiere. Described as “disappointing”, Marseille went down to an Albi side “now setting a magnificent standard”. The game, while tight, revealed major flaws in Marseille’s attempt to obtain one of the four finals berths on offer in 1952-1953.

After five rounds, the French Championship table bore little resemblance to the pre-season predictions of the pundits:-



1. Celtic Paris 5 matches 15 points

2. Carcassonne 5 matches 13 points

3. Toulouse 5 matches 12 points

4. Albi 5 matches 11 points

Villeneuve 5 matches 11 points

6. Lyon 5 matches 10 points

7. Marseille 5 matches 9 points

8. Bordeaux 3 matches 7 points

9. Cavaillon 5 matches 7 points

10. Perpignan 4 matches 6 points

11. Carpentras 5 matches 6 points

12. Lezignan 5 matches 6 points

13. Avignon 4 matches 5 points

Middle of the table after five rounds was not so much a case of Marseille failing to meet high expectations but seemingly of those hopes nearly evaporating altogether. The redeeming feature of what was otherwise an unpalatable start to the 1952-1953 campaign was the prospect of the next two games being at home within the intimidating Le Velodrome – even if the first of them was to be against the team sitting astride the top of the leader board, the unbeaten Celtic Paris.

The October 19, 1952 meeting of Marseille and Celtic Paris at the Stade Velodrome in Marseille was truly an epic in the history of domestic French rugby league. A near capacity crowd piled into the venerable stadium to witness the locals try to knock off the invaders from the capital and restore some parity to what had otherwise been a disastrous beginning to the campaign.

In what was described by Le Miroir Des Sports as a “very spectacular match”, the referee, Monsieur Dubernat, stopped play with some twenty minutes remaining and did not return to the field of play. At the time, Celtic Paris were leading Marseille by 5-0 following a glorious first-half try to Prevost and superb conversion by international fullback Puig-Aubert. Paris had been reduced to, firstly, 12 men, with the retirement through injury of lock forward Roigt (no replacements were allowed during rugby league world-wide in this period) and then 11, with the expulsion of Puig-Aubert. Marseille lock forward Raoul Perez was also marched by referee Dubernat, reducing the match to a contest of 11 on 12!

This saw the entire scene escalate into an argument between most of the opposing players and ultimately punches were thrown. It was in this context that the referee left the playing arena with nearly a quarter of the usual 80 minutes of play remaining. He would not return; leaving the players to resolve their differences on the playing field and ultimately in continuing arguments along the touchline.

The French Rugby League, furious with the actions of the players in leading to what they saw as the referee’s legitimate withdrawal from the game, would later determine that neither Celtic Paris nor Marseille would receive any benefit from the match, with both teams remaining on the same number of points and for and against unaffected. Both teams accepted the punishment grudgingly – although given the score at the time the match was abandoned, perhaps Paris could feel more aggrieved at the loss of three competition points.

For Marseille, there was no let-up to the troubled start to the season with this decision resulting in them dropping a further place to eighth, Bordeaux taking the opportunity of a 52-7 thrashing of Lezignan to climb over the southern port city into seventh spot.

France’s loss to Wales on 25 October 1952 by 16-22 featured two Marseille players in halfback Dop and prop Rinaldi, so not even those international players could bring much needed momentum to the next Marseille encounter, this time again at home to lowly Cavaillon.

Lowly Cavaillon! It was precisely this type of talk that had fired the bellies of the Vauclusians for decades and a traditionally “hot” derby was again predicted for the 1952-1953 season. While only sitting tenth on the ladder (equal with Perpignan and Carpentras), Cavaillon was expected to make the going tough for Marseille, even within the familiar confines of the southern city’s holy grail of sport.

Marseille, however, perhaps in a sign of improving fortunes, rebuffed the challenge with some authority, giving Cavaillon a thorough kicking which resulted in a comfortable 22-0 victory.

Carcassonne, cruising along in second position on the table, accounted for Marseille at home (12-10) during round eight in what was a desperately tight and tense match to ensure les Phoceens remained in eighth position for at least one more week – with another pending derby, this time with Carpentras, awaiting in the next round. Any boost of confidence provided by another strong win over Carpentras (27-2) was immediately tempered by the thought of the further challenges ahead – particularly the daunting double road trip of a resurgent Bordeaux (sixth) and the always menacing Perpignan.

In what was undoubtedly one of their best results of the season to date, Marseille survived the fiery atmosphere of Bordeaux’s Stade Municipal to triumph 18-9. Buoyed by the return of Jacques Merquey from injury, Marseille turned on the style to score some classic rugby league tries, with young tyro Guy Delaye beginning to make an impact for Marseille with his off-loading ability and bullocking running.


Another away win, this time at Perpignan by the more comfortable scoreline of 14-0, saw Marseille consolidate an improved sixth position during round eleven, just outside a top five all vying for four semi-final places: Carcassonne (27 points), Celtic Paris (25), Villeneuve (25), Lyon (23) and Toulouse (23).

And so to Marseille’s penultimate match of the 1952 calendar year, against equal fourth placed Lyon, at home. At this stage, it was becoming a question of which Marseille would stand up – that which had proved capable of losing to eleventh placed Lezignan? Or that which had pushed Celtic Paris right to the wire (until the game was abandoned by the referee) in one of the season’s earlier highlights?

In hindsight it would be the latter, for remarkably, this game too was abandoned prior to its proper conclusion! Marseille, leading 15-3, and playing the better football before another large and passionate home crowd, once again allowed their temperament to get the better of them, with punches being exchanged with the hard men from Lyon – a team renowned for producing high quality, tough and durable forwards (particularly in the post-WWII era). The most willing protagonists on this occasion seemed to be Lyon’s prop Krawzyck and Marseille’s giant second-rower Delaye.

Another melee, another referee determining that play could not continue in a game involving Marseille…

The French Rugby League, embittered by the fact that its initial penalty meted out to Marseille after the abandoned Celtic Paris match had been so lightly regarded, met in a state of bewilderment to consider the appropriate action to be taken. Many suggested Marseille should be stripped of the points earned as a result of the shortened match against Lyon, thus dropping them from equal fourth (with the points from the win against Lyon) to seventh (without them). Naturally, the Marseille hierarchy thought otherwise and resolved to fight any reduction of points imposed by the French Rugby League.

The very real concerns raised by abandoned matches (clearly recognised by the French Rugby League) were echoed by the Paris press, who urged the French Rugby League to sanction Marseille to avoid a further repeat of what was dubbed the “Marseille case”.Of course, the fact a revitalised Celtic Paris was running second at the time was no doubt of little relevance in their thinking!

Ultimately, the French Rugby League astutely placed great emphasis on the thoughts of the match referee Monsieur Martung (who had expressed the view that Lyon was responsible for vacating the pitch and that Marseille would have won the match) by permitting Marseille to retain the three points for a victory. Otherwise, the French Rugby League expressed their displeasure with both sides and advised that further abandoned matches during the course of the 1952-1953 season would not be tolerated. Marseille was regrettably more aware than most of the potentially disastrous impact two abandoned matches might have on their 1952-1953 campaign.

The following round saw Marseille produce another quality performance against Celtic Paris, peculiarly again at home (given that the 19 October 1952 match between the same sides was also played in Marseille). The Parisiens were downed 17-14, achieved largely through the brilliant play of the mercurial Jean Dop and the ubiquitous Merquey. Grasseau, always a try-scorer of some repute for Marseille, contributed two beautiful tries and also a goal for good measure. The Marseille public lapped up what was a wonderful exposition of rugby league. It was hoped that the momentum of such a win would carry Marseille far into the year 1953.

Thus, at the turn of the season, Marseille were in sixth position on 28 points – two points outside the finals on current positions – and only one point and two points ahead of Toulouse and Albi respectively. Not the position expected of an equal title favourite – with Lyon (fifth) and Carcassonne (first) – at season’s beginning.

Regardless of their standing, one question appeared critical for Marseille: would the “war” with the French Rugby League over abandoned matches continue into the second half of the season?

Marseille’s draw for the remainder of the 1952-1953 season was as follows:-



1/1/53 v. Carpentras Away

4/1/53 v. Lyon Away

11/1/53 v. Albi Home

17/1/53 Bye

24/1/53 v. Cavaillon Away

1/2/53 Bye

8/2/53 v. Carcassonne Home

15/2/53 v. Catalans Home

22/2/53 v Avignon Away

1/3/53 v. Toulouse Carcassonne (1/8th Final French Cup)

8/3/53 v. Bordeaux Home

15/3/53 v. Villeneuve Home

22/3/53 v. Toulouse Away

29/3/53 Bye

5/4/53 v. Lezignan Home

12/4/53 v. Celtic Paris Away

19/4/53 Bye

The next remarkable twist in the curious tale of this season was the Toulouse – Albi match of 4 January 1953, which was also stopped by the referee. Toulouse was primarily responsible for the incident which led to the abandonment of this match, although the sides had been more interested in trading blows than tries throughout.

The referee, Monsieur Ribas, originally sent Toulouse player Dubalen from the field. International winger and one of the many stars of the 1951 Antipodes tour, Vincent Cantoni, elected to show support for his team-mate by also leaving the field of play when Dubalen was ejected. M. Ribas felt, quite rightly, that he had no option but to terminate the game after this incident occurred at the 50 minute mark. At the time, the sides remained locked at 0-0.

Initially, both teams were permitted to keep the two points arising from a draw. The French Rugby League resolved, however, to investigate the match incidents further and to report back on the status of the match following that investigation. Perhaps with a view to ensuring some consistency across the season (and no doubt to avoid the reaction from Marseille and Celtic Paris that would otherwise have followed), both sides were deducted a point prior to the conclusion of the next week.

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

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nicolas.XIII.c a écrit :
rugbyman13 a écrit :Ayant récupéré un nombre important de visuels concernant ce club, j'ai pensé qu'il fallait lancer un post sur cette grande ville où le XIII fut roi pendant une décennie. Marseille XIII mériterait de retrouver son lustre passé dans la ville phocéenne. Alors, bonne chance aux dirigeants actuels.
On distingue André Carrère alias 'Dédé" dans la ligne d'attaque bordelaise, il suit Contrastin
salut frank
je ne pense pas l avoir vu celle ci ,mais bon faut que je fouille dans les archives quand j ai le temps.en attendant merci.
a bientot peutetre a mimizan.
nicolas.
Salut Nicolas, non celle-ci ne vient pas de chez vous mais de Marseille via Stéphane P. A bientôt sur Mimizan ou Biarritz.

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La fameuse Coupe en 1949 (photo source SP).
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France Vs GB 1952 au Vélodrome ( source SP).
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Message non lu par rugbyman13 » 04 déc. 2012, 23:24

France Vs Galles 1953 au Vélodrome. Quelle foule ! photo source S.P
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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

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Robert Erasmouspe dans les vestiaires (source S.P)
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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

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Suite avec ce document (source Stéphane P.)
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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par moine.eric0605 » 23 déc. 2012, 22:52

Sur la photo de Roger Eramouspe de Marseille XIII, c'est des épaulières qu'il porte :?: un peu comme les footballeurs Américains, ou de simples rembourrages :?: quelqu'un peut-il m'éclairer sur ce sujet :?: . Merci :cool: .






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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par sergic » 24 déc. 2012, 02:12

moine.eric0605 a écrit :Sur la photo de Roger Eramouspe de Marseille XIII, c'est des épaulières qu'il porte :?: un peu comme les footballeurs Américains, ou de simples rembourrages :?: quelqu'un peut-il m'éclairer sur ce sujet :?: . Merci :cool: .






A+Eric71. :-P :-P :-P :-P
Ce sont effectivement des épaulières ; Eramouspé, un poète parmi les poètes...

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par jean.chaput » 24 déc. 2012, 16:24

SVP .des noms sous la photo de Marseille XIII

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par rugbyman13 » 26 déc. 2012, 19:43

jean.chaput a écrit :SVP .des noms sous la photo de Marseille XIII
Malheureusement pas de noms transmis.

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Re: L'Histoire de Marseille XIII

Message non lu par catharexiii » 26 déc. 2012, 20:50

rugbyman13 a écrit :Suite avec ce document (source Stéphane P.)
cette équipe devait évoluer en DN2: en haut de gàdr. x,Gil,x,Bousquet,Gagnière,x,x,x,x,Ferchichi.
en bas de gàdr:Doulieu,x,x,x,x,Monnier,x,x,x,x,Dravet ?

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